fbd: Is Rajniti A Solution For All Problems?

 Rajniti is merely a 'System' for governance. And without any system there would only be anarchy ie simple absence of recognized government or political authority. A good political system is very important for governance in any country. 

As far as solutions to problems are concerned, it is a very open field. There could not be one solution to all problems. Why only Dowry and Andhvishwas, seemingly politics is no solution for all medical problems too like diarrhea and constipation. 

But still good governance can definitely help in solving all the problems be it social, medical or even personal.
A good governance system can promote awareness against social malpractices and can help the society by providing infrastructure, financial and moral support to fight such social problems.
Good governance can help in solving medical problems by instituting a system which produces medical officers and also medicines which will relieve one of his medical problems...

Thus Ratanjeet bhai, I believe though Rajniti IS NOT a solution of all problems but it sure can FIND solutions to all problems that afflict a nation or its citizen.

17 September 2011

राजनीति खुद एक सिद्धांत है और ये दूसरे सिद्धांतों से वैर नहीं रखती. पर हाँ इसके पालन में कई बार कमियां रह जाती हैं जिससे कुछ परेशानियां होती हैं पर वो execution की गलती है न कि principle की.
जहाँ तक राजनीति के कारण होने वाले समझोतों व अन्य समस्याओं की बात है तो भाई मेरा मानना है कि समस्या शुद्ध राजनीती से नहीं है. राजनीति अपने आप में कोई समस्या नहीं खड़ी करती. समस्याएँ पैदा होती हैं या तो जब हम भ्रष्ट राजनीती कर रहे है और राजनीती के सिद्धांतों से भटक गए हैं या जब हम हर चीज़ में राजनीति करने लगते हैं. अगर प्रशासन में राजनीती, यानी alliances, preferences aur opposition etc, मिला दें तो गलत ही होगा. खेल में राजनीति ले आयें तो गलत होगा और समझौते होंगे और सेवा भाव कम होगा. इसी तरह तरक्की, सेहत सभी पर राजनीती मिलाने से गलत असर होगा.
कमी राजनीति में नहीं बल्कि इसकी समझ, इसके पालन और गलत उपयोग में है. सही इस्तेमाल करें तो राजनीती हर चीज़ का हल निकाल सकती है.

17 September 2011 

As far as 'hypothesis' thing is concerned, hypothesis is more of an explanation for what is happening whereas Politics provides an outline as to how it is to be done. It is based on certain very well defined principles and norms.

17 September 2011 

fbd: Dahej Ki Raajniti

A 'caste less society' is as vague a concept as, to say, water less ocean.... The Ocean itself is water...................................

Campaign against dowry. But frankly speaking I have still been pondering over 'Dowry', 'Reasonable Gifts', 'Girls Share in Property', etc etc....

Mere criticism will not get us anywhere, CRITICAL ANALYSIS is required to improve.

It was very easy for you to say you are "not so proud of those men who elder to me and my ancestors", but it will take some effort to understand their ideas and concepts about everything we consider as farce today.

It is better first we understand the mechanics of Dowry, Gifts and Property then comment on motives of others.....................

One seems to have taken a pledge that "i will never take dowry and i will also try to stop ppl frm my family and relations to also not do the same". Fine... But what about marriage of your daughter or sister? Can you take a similar pledge here? Say something like, "I take a pledge that i will never give dowry, gift or share of property to my daughter or sister in her marriage".
And this question is open to all who say NO TO DOWRY, if you decide to give any of the three ie dowry, gift, share of property to your sister or daughter in marriage, then please elaborate what would be the norm?
9 September 2011

Whether one will give the share of property or not? Whether one will give anything in marriage or not?
At one place I see one advocating a secret gift in marriage. Why? Why this hypocracy? Say 'yes' to gifts or 'no'. Why 'yes' in public but 'no' secretly? What if your daughter-in-law brings that secret gift in her marriage? Would you accept that?
As I see from one's post one is not averse to the concept of giving something in marriage. What one is against is that show-off and may be that gift or dowry under compulsion beyond one's capability. If yes then say so. It is the problem with our society on this issue. We are not clear what we want to oppose. And when we lack conviction we fail to make others see reason in our arguments. It is just like drinking a 'glass of milk' or taking a 'tank full of milk', pouring some in mouth, splurging and spreading it all over the floor, staining your clothes, making the room messy and all that. What is bad? Drinking milk or splurging? You shout from roof tops against drinking but will not get support because people fail to see logic why you want them to stop drinking milk. You fight against splurging and you'll be overwhelmed by the support you'll get. Fight against show-off, unreasonable gifts/expenditure etc and not against the concept of gift itself. Excess of everything is bad but to save ourselves of the excess we need not discard the whole thing itself. Just stop the excess. Difficult? Well who said social reforms are children's play? It takes a life time to hammer in just one simple concept.

One feels emptiness after quitting caste thing because without getting strength from one's own roots one couldn't make strong relations and connections with people. Today I have friends from all walks of life, belonging to all major religions and almost all parts of the country including North-East and some foreigners too. They know me as Raj Basatta. And no their is no conflict. Why do I have to chose between my caste and my friends. We all happily co-exist.

Not everything oriental is bad. Just see the concept and logic behind it and then take your pick.
9 September 2011

The very Indians one mentioned are the Indians cut-off from their roots, mis-fits in alien cultures whom we want to bring in mainstream. Pizza and Burger are symbolic... not of eating habits but of following the cultures. One is labelled a 'Pizza-Burger' when he identifies more with the western culture than with Indian.............

I had asked about modalities as to how should we go about giving girls their share in property. The query still remains unanswered. Further points about Gifts, secret gifts etc also remain unanswered.

As for the treatment of women in India vis-a-vis Western Countries, the fact remains that America has the highest per capita figure for women related crimes including 'Domestic voilence', 'Rape' and 'murders'. But partner that's not the issue. That is a diversion from real issue which should be avoided on this post and can be discussed separately.

It would be better that we thrash out one topic first before starting other. My previous comment was based entirely on comments earlier on this post. But the specific points still remain unanswered. Repeating EVIL or GOD a thousand times doesn't change the reality. For a meaningful dialogue we have to be realistic enough to analyse properly and graceful enough to accept the facts without any prejudices.
9 September 2011

We are one when matter of reform comes. We should remove all curbs being imposed by society/community and should work for betterment of the community. The youth needs to be guided, supported, encouraged and promoted... both our daughters and our sons.
9 September 2011

facebook discussion: Facebook 'friends'.

We generally misinterpret many relationships to be friendships when they should actually be classified as acquaintances or may be relatives. I think the problem is with limitation of options in fb. These 5,6,7 odd hundreds have been categorized as 'friends' by facebook otherwise they all are not 'friends' in the true sense of the word.
Most of them are:
acquaintances, associates, classmates, colleagues, companions, compatriots, just familiar, partners, playmates, roommates, schoolmates, well-wishers, friends of friends, neighbors, sympathizers, ally, or merely fellow countryman who are not 'enemy' and with whom we share something, may be just even a thought.
There could be various reasons why we have or do not have someone on the list. Otherwise someone has said 'two is a company, three is a crowd'.
27 August 2011

facebook discussion: भाग्य, तक़दीर, लक का हमारी सफलता और असफलता मे क्या रोल होता है?

अधिष्ठानं तथा कर्ता करणं च प्रथग्विद्हम l
विविधाश्च पृथक चेष्टा दैवंचैवात्र पंचमं ll"

Srimad Bhagwat Gita, Ch 18:14

One of my favorite shlokas from the 'song celestial'.
As per this shloka there are five factors determining success of any project or person. These are:
1. Adhishthanam or Infrastructure
2. Karta or The Individual, The Agent
3. Karana or the Means, the Equipment
4. Chesta or the Efforts
5. Daiva or God's Grace or Fate

Thus, as I see it, and as I have understood from Srimad Bhagwat Gita, भाग्य, तकदीर, लक्, किस्मत, fate... whatever we name it, is only ONE of the FIVE factors. Sometimes, rather most of the times, other four are not perfect and we blame or credit 'fate' for the success or failure. We must perfect the means, equip ourselves best and exert ourselves to the most- then success is bound to come.

My Idol Swami Vivekanand once said, 'Let us perfect the means; the end will take care of itself.'
12 August 2011


Vidhna let's try to understand the ‘mechanics’ of vidhna as brought out in following story in brief :

“In a village two boys were born at the same time in two different families. One grew to be the most obedient and hardworking always lending a helping hand to others while other became the most crooked bully hitting others and snatching their belongings. Once there was flood and all villagers had to move to a different village. En-route the pious young man slipped and fell on a wild bush and a very long thick thorn pierced through his foot. He could not take out the thorn and was injured badly. He was in severe pain and could not move properly.

The other guy, the bad one, also slipped and fell in a small ditch. As he was trying to get out of that ditch he unearthed a box full of coins and jewels. He took it all and was happy. Perplexed by the events the villagers took both the boys to a learned man and asked him to solve the mystry as they could see themselves that the righteous man had suffered discomfort while that devil got rewarded with that box full of khazana.

The sage then told them that the man who got pierced by the thorn would have got hanged on sooli in his youth as per his vidhna. But his conduct and karma over these years since his birth have reduced that punishment of sooli to ‘shool’ ie thorn. And as per his vidhna this other boy would have grown to be the king of this kingdom with all the jewels and treausury at his disposal but his bad deeds of this life since his birth have reduced it to just a box full of discarded jewels…….”

Yes it is not difficult to discard it as a piece of fiction but then we have to understand that even kismet is not something abstract. It is very systematic thing. That we can’t always understand it is a different issue.
Vidhna after all is not an illogical, arbitrary, dictators.... kah diya bas... type.... it has to follow some principles.

16 August 2011


As highlighted in the story above, Kismat is written by us only through our deeds and intentions. It is very much according to our 'बल बूता'. Vidhaata has only reduced it in writing with a provision of regular updates based on our actions during this period.
Your subsequent reiteration is totally uncalled for. In the story above we just saw that the person destined to be the 'king' ended up with only a 'box of jewels' just because of his deeds in this life. Though, as I said earlier also it can be easily dismissed as a piece of fiction, still it explains the concept in a manner I have not seen elsewhere. It tries to explain the mechanism of kismat instead of imposing an abstract thought. One can never quantify how much of an effort and how much other four factors including infrastructure, means and 'kismat' have worked in an individual's success.
17 August 2011


इस कहानी में दो extremes हैं. बहुत ही अच्छे भाग्य से बुरा भाग्य बदलना और बहुत ही बुरे भाग्य से अच्छा भाग्य बदलना.

इन दोनों में से मैं किस ओर हूँ मुझे नहीं पता. लेकिन ये है कि पिछले ४५ सालों में मैंने जो कुछ किया है उस से मैं आज जो हूँ वो जरूर प्रभावित हुआ है..........

मैं आज कहाँ हूँ ये मुझे पता है. लेकिन ये मेरे जन्म के समय की मेरी 'विधना' द्वारा लिखी गयी नियति से कम है या ज्यादा इसका तो हम सिर्फ अंदाजा ही लगा सकते हैं.
17 August 2011

facebook discussion: Is Anshan another way of blackmailing?

If this is accepted as a means to get your bidding, then wouldn’t some one come tomorrow saying ‘throw away democracy bring in martial law’, or say ‘remove Hindi from India and introduce Swahili’… etc etc… If something like it happens and someone sits on an Anshan demanding anything like this or even more weird then what do we do?

Then the issue would be:
Is that demand ‘Constitutional’?
Is the method ‘Constitutional’?
Is that in National interest?
Is that the last resort? 

And if the answer to any of these queries is ‘No’ then we can take all legal police and political action against that anshan. But if the answer to these questions is in the affirmative then you, me or anyone else has no ‘Constitutional’ right to oppose that anshan. It is as simple as that.

And believe me this type of a 'Constitutional' act would only strengthen the democracy by strengthening its Institutions.

As far as blackmailing is concerned, the motive is important.
‘A’ asks ‘B’ to leave his bag aside otherwise he will shoot at 'B' with his gun.
What would you call it?
Reconsider your response in light of further inputs viz:
(1) ‘A’ is a roadside mugger and ‘B’ is someone who has just got out of the Bank after withdrawing his own legitimate money.
(2) ‘A’ is a Gate-keeper and ‘B’ is a thief coming out of the Bank after looting the bank.

We have to look at it with this perspective.
To me,
(1) Yes Anna’s demand to have an ‘effective’ Lokpal is ‘Constitutional’.
(2) Yes his method of going on anshan is ‘Constitutional’.
(3) Yes this move is in National Interest, and
(4) Well here I would say NO this is not yet ‘the’ last resort. It is still only intermediate stage. The last resort would be too risky and too painful.15 August 2011


It is a matter of personal experiences. With an experience of 74 years behind him and with a history of his efforts, Anna has felt the need of this agitation. Like millions other in India he feels that this 'system' is breeding corruption and there is no check. The ones indulged in corruption are the ones expected to check it. At least I don't doubt his credentials.
15 August 2011


Anna is not making a 'kanoon'. He is proposing a draft which can be made a 'kanoon' if approved by law. And not only Anna every Indian has a right to 'propose'. For more than four decades the need has been felt but the proper 'kanoon' was neither drafted nor passed.
So I request to correct the impression that Anna is trying to pass a bill by by-passing the Parliament.
15 August 2011

"We can make a suggestion but can not force the parliament to do so". Fine let the Parliament turn down the suggestion. But you are not allowing us to put up a suggestion before the parliament.
Further there are n number of instances when suggestions have been invited from the public through press on particular bills. Govt had published an advfacebook discussion: ertisement in the English Daily "The Hindu" dated 24.06.2010, inviting written comments/suggestions either in English or in Hindi on the 'Civil Liabilities for Nuclear Damage Bill 2010'. In the terms of the notification those, who are willing to appear before the committee for oral evidence, besides submitting the memoranda were also asked to indicate so. It is a well known procedure. And very very constitutional at that.
The question of encroaching upon the judiciary to deliver the judgement by making such suggestions as that of Anna Hazare, just does not arise.
15 August 2011

Someone has suggested that "anna hazare ji is not only proposing the lokpal bill now they are trying to force the government to implement as they want ....."
First thing the fight is for a draft first its implementation will
come much later. Let there be the draft first.
Secondly if any draft is accepted then it has to be implemented through due process of law making. It is no use making a draft and then not putting it through the process.
16 August 2011

Secondly someone has said that people do not know about Lokpal Bill but they are supporting Anna on it.
May be an ordinary citizen of India really does not understand what this bill is all about. But when they see people like "Justice D S Tewatia, Kiran Bedi, Mallika Sarabhai, Swami Agnivesh, Sri Sri Ravishankar, Arcbishop Vincent M Concessao, B R Lalla" etc etc supporting some issue, it gives them confidence that it might be something good. This confidence, this belief is sufficient for them to lend their support.
16 August 2011

Agar ye sab bhi corruption mein lipt hain to ye aur bhi badi wajah hai ki hamen ek aisa system devise karna chahiye jo aise corruption ko failne se roke. Hamen ye kah kar inke suggestion ko ignore nahin karna chahiye ki kyonki aap bhi corrupt the to ab corruption ko rokne ki koi koshish aap ko nahin karne denge.
16 August 2011

Yes it is very difficult to eradicate corruption. Baba Ramdev's, Anna's are a few small attempts it will take much more than this. There is very stiff opposition from those who are enjoying the benefits of corruption. We all have to come forward and do our bit.
16 August 2011

Agar wo sab corrupt hain Ramdev 'fully corrupt' hai to kya majboori hai sarkar kii ki unhe giraftaar nahin kar rahi? itni badi personalities par unsubstantiated allegations laga kar ham sirg bhrashtachaariyon ke haath hi majboot karte hain.
16 August 2011

Hame ek logical approach lekar chalna hai. kisi bhi muhim ke liye ek leader kii jaroorat hoti hai. Anna ya Ramdev se jyada suitable ya willing leader agar koi aata hai to sab unhe bhi support karenge. koi aaye to.
16 August 2011

Main manta hun ki wo bhi corrupt rahe hon. lekin agar aap specifically mera jawab chaahte hain to jab tak koi baat unke khilaaf saabit nahin ho rahi mein bilkul nahin kah sakta ki wo corrupt hain. Ek vyakti ki puri reputation ko main sirf shak ke binah par hi khatam nahin kar sakta.
16 August 2011

Secondly someone asked "kya aap poore vishvaas kai sath kah sakte hai", to bhai poore vishwaas se to main kisi ko bhi, even Raja aur Kalmaadi ko bhi nahin kah raha fir jinke khilaaf koi mukadma nahin hai aap wahan mere poore vishwas ko kyon question kar rahe hain?
16 August 2011

facebook discussion: अन्ना जी क्या कर रहे है

"-मेरे प्यारे दोस्तों आप सभी को पता है अन्ना जी क्या कर रहे है?

-क्या आपको लगता है जो अन्ना जी कर रहे है वो सही है?

-और इसको करने का यही सही तरीका है?

-क्या अन्ना जी भारत की संवेधानिक व्यवस्था को धमका नहीं रहे?

-या हमारे देश की जनता सही candidates को नहीं चुनती है?

-इसलिए अब अन्ना जी सीधे संसद को घेरने की तयारी में है?

-क्या अन्ना वास्तव में ११० करोड़ लोगो का प्रतिनिधित्व करते है?"



आइये सवालों को एक एक कर लेते हैं.

Q1: “मेरे प्यारे दोस्तों आप सभी को पता है अन्ना जी क्या कर रहे है?”
A: सवाल थोडा मुशकिल है मगर फिर भी ये कहा जा सकता है कि वो देश के उज्जवल भविष्य का सपना देख रहे हैं.

Q2: “क्या आपको लगता है जो अन्ना जी कर रहे है वो सही है?”
A: Justice D S Tewatia, Kiran Bedi, Mallika Sarabhai, Swami Agnivesh, Sri Sri Ravishankar, Arcbishop Vincent M Concessao, B R Lalla इत्यादि की मैं कदर करता हूँ और उन्ही की तरह मुझे भी यही लगता है कि अन्ना हजारे शायद सही कर रहे हैं और इससे भ्रष्टाचारी मुश्किल में पड़ जायेंगे.
वैसे Sharad Pawar, Kapil Sibbal, P Chidambaram, Digvijay Singh इत्यादि सोचते हैं कि अन्ना हजारे गलत कर रहे हैं क्योंकि वो ‘जानते हैं’ कि इससे भ्रष्टाचारी मुश्किल में पड़ जायेंगे.

Q3: “और इसको करने का यही सही तरीका है?”
A: यह भी एक तरीका है. सही और गलत सिर्फ comparative है. और बहुत से तरीके हैं और उन पर भी कोशिशें जारी हैं. मगर भाई ये बात इतनी आसान नहीं है कि कोई एक तरीका अपनाएँ और मिनटों में भ्रष्टाचार से छुटकारा पाएं. ये एक छोटा सा कदम है.

Q4: “क्या अन्ना जी भारत की संवेधानिक व्यवस्था को धमका नहीं रहे?”
A: थोडा कानूनी पक्ष “the opening word of the Constitution of India is ‘WE THE PEOPLE’ it means the constitution is framed by the people”.

और आप पूछ रहे हैं कि क्या people, यानी अन्ना जी इत्यादि भारत की संवेधानिक व्यवस्था को धमका नहीं रहे. अगर आप असली मायने में देखें तो क़ानून के जानकारों के साथ मिलकर अन्ना जी द्वारा उठाया गया ये कदम भारत की संवेधानिक व्यवस्था को और मजबूती प्रदान करेगा.

Q5: “या हमारे देश की जनता सही candidates को नहीं चुनती है?”
A: अफ़सोस भारत कि electorate अभी उतनी परिपक्व नहीं है. अभी भी वह भावनाओं में बह जाती है. और बाकी चारों ओर वही ‘व्यवस्था’ है जिसके खिलाफ आज समाज के बुद्धिजीवी वर्ग को उठ कर सामने आना पड़ रहा है. फिलहाल गलती दोनों ओर से ही हो रही है. चुनने वालों से भी और चुने जाने वालों से भी.

Q6: “इसलिए अब अन्ना जी सीधे संसद को घेरने की तयारी में है?”
A: संसद को घेरने का idea आपको पता नहीं कैसे आया. लेकिन अगर आपका ये कथन ‘symbolic’ है तो मैं यही कहूँगा कि अन्ना जी अकेले तो शायद संसद को न घेर पायें. लेकिन अगर ऐसी सोच रखने वाले, कानून की ऐसी समझ रखने वाले और देशभक्ति का ऐसा माद्दा रखने वाले अन्य लोग साथ हैं तो अन्ना जी जरूर संसद के दरवाजे पर दस्तक तो दे ही देंगे.

Q7: “क्या अन्ना वास्तव में ११० करोड़ लोगो का प्रतिनिधित्व करते है?”
A: भाई आपके ७ सवालों में ये अकेला सवाल है जिसका में तात्पर्य नहीं समझ पाया. फिर भी क्योंकि आपने आंकड़े रखे हैं तो मैं कुछ और आंकड़े जोड़ दूँ... ECI की रिपोर्ट के अनुसार २००९ के जनरल इलेक्शन में कांग्रेस को कुल 119111019 यानी कुल १२ करोड से कम वोट मिलीं. और आप कोई सवाल नहीं उठा रहे. अन्ना से पूछ रहे हैं कि क्या आप ११० करोड लोगों का प्रतिनिधित्व करते हैं. क्या कोई कर सकता है ११० करोड लोगों का प्रतिनिधित्व? क्या ये जरूरी है? अगर इससे कम हो तो क्या वो भ्रश्टाचार के खिलाफ आवाज नहीं उठा सकता?
1 August 2011

facebook discussion: क्या बच्चों को शिक्षित करने के लिए हमें उन पर डंडे का प्रयोग करना चाहिए..??

There are two extremes here. Not saying anything at all or saying it with a danda. To control and guide the child a certain level of firmness is required along with love and affection. A pat and a spat is fine... but 'danda'... baap re baap...
30 July 2011


मैं सोचता हूँ कि मार की शायद तब जरूरत पड़ती है जब हम प्यार से कण्ट्रोल नहीं कर पा रहे. लेकिन किस वज़ह से नहीं कर पा रहे? हमें सोचना व देखना होगा. कहीं हमारी खुद की कमी या गलत तरीके कि वज़ह से तो नहीं? और कहीं अब उन कमियों को छिपाने के लिए तो हम डंडा प्रयोग नहीं कर रहे?
30 July 2011